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Post by charliefarlie on Apr 27, 2021 19:26:49 GMT
Plug-in hybrids are allowed until 2035, but need to provided a "significant distance" with zero emissions whatever "significant" means. I suspect most, if not all, will be gone sometime by then anyway, is what I mean It’s debatable whether BJ’s 2030 target will be achieved bearing in mind the resistance amongst the average drivers towards EVs, the inability of the National Grid to provide enough power to routinely charge the 25 to 30 million EVs that BJ wants to replace all today’s conventional vehicles with (made even difficult if the NT is going to only have windmills to generate electricity) and the problem of having a workable network of recharging points. I have read several reports that suggest that to meet the 2030 target, something between 5K and 7K charging points will need to be installed every day until 2030 to service the targeted number of EVs! So far, the best that has been achieved is 300 per day. And what about all those folks who have no driveways or who live in flats/tower blocks? Time to buy shares in extension lead manufacturers...... Personally I think this green revolution of BJs is one of the most hare-brained policies since the Poll Tax. Of course BJ won’t be around to have to worry about delivering it and successive governments will likely have no choice but to push the deadline back when they realise that it is utterly impossible. Ultimately I reckon ICE vehicles will still be around by 2050. Yeh but if Boris says it it must be true ? 😜😜
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Yaris
Apr 27, 2021 19:40:42 GMT
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Post by firemac on Apr 27, 2021 19:40:42 GMT
It’s debatable whether BJ’s 2030 target will be achieved bearing in mind the resistance amongst the average drivers towards EVs, the inability of the National Grid to provide enough power to routinely charge the 25 to 30 million EVs that BJ wants to replace all today’s conventional vehicles with (made even difficult if the NT is going to only have windmills to generate electricity) and the problem of having a workable network of recharging points. I have read several reports that suggest that to meet the 2030 target, something between 5K and 7K charging points will need to be installed every day until 2030 to service the targeted number of EVs! So far, the best that has been achieved is 300 per day. And what about all those folks who have no driveways or who live in flats/tower blocks? Time to buy shares in extension lead manufacturers...... Personally I think this green revolution of BJs is one of the most hare-brained policies since the Poll Tax. Of course BJ won’t be around to have to worry about delivering it and successive governments will likely have no choice but to push the deadline back when they realise that it is utterly impossible. Ultimately I reckon ICE vehicles will still be around by 2050. Yeh but if Boris says it it must be true ? 😜😜 But only if Carrie allows it!😊
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Yaris
Apr 27, 2021 20:30:43 GMT
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Post by charliefarlie on Apr 27, 2021 20:30:43 GMT
This is kinda interesting. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56574779.ampOne thing that irritates is this zero emissions rubbish. There are a lot of emissions during building cars and from the manufacturing of the batteries. Then the electricity has to be generated. Zero emissions is a fat lie...
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Yaris
Apr 27, 2021 21:03:35 GMT
Post by davrav on Apr 27, 2021 21:03:35 GMT
This is kinda interesting. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56574779.ampOne thing that irritates is this zero emissions rubbish. There are a lot of emissions during building cars and from the manufacturing of the batteries. Then the electricity has to be generated. Zero emissions is a fat lie... Yes, read that earlier. It's a messy business from start to finish in reality.
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Post by charliefarlie on Apr 28, 2021 17:23:26 GMT
This is kinda interesting. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56574779.ampOne thing that irritates is this zero emissions rubbish. There are a lot of emissions during building cars and from the manufacturing of the batteries. Then the electricity has to be generated. Zero emissions is a fat lie... Yes, read that earlier. It's a messy business from start to finish in reality. There was a topic on Pistonheads where one fella who seemed pretty clued up said the pollution caused by the production and disposal of the batteries for a full EV vehicle is more than the fuel burned by a normal petrol or diesel car in its lifespan which was based on 15 years. Now I’m not into finite numbers as you know. But if that is even slightly and remotely true then the whole lot is pointless..... They also reckoned on a battery’s life span again on a full EV will be approximately 8 years. With Lithium batteries we use with power tools the life span of Milwaukee and others is 500 charges. As I’ve mentioned before I have a Milwaukee battery status reader. One of the counts the reader does is the amount of charges the battery has endured. I’ve yet to read a battery that has done more than 3700 charges before the battery is dead. I don’t think I’m alone in distrusting what politicians and their ilk tell us. I share the same view as someone mentioned above that despite what we’re told we won’t be ready for full EV vehicles for everyone based on we have no infrastructure to support the charging of millions of cars. A major sporting event or big TV program gets the National grid creaking so how on earth can all these cars be charged especially at peak times when folk get home from work. Sceptical ?? Yes I am. I’m also concerned at the rapid rate of climate change. For me and my generation no it’s too late. I’ve had lots of friends pass over the last few years and me and my generation ain’t going to go on for ever. But it’s our kids grandkids Etc. Frankly we’re doing next to nothing which is far king ridiculous.
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Yaris
Apr 28, 2021 18:33:23 GMT
Post by shcm on Apr 28, 2021 18:33:23 GMT
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Yaris
Apr 28, 2021 18:45:52 GMT
Post by charliefarlie on Apr 28, 2021 18:45:52 GMT
Errr Sorry but that means nothing to me 👍
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Post by shcm on Apr 28, 2021 19:12:57 GMT
Errr Sorry but that means nothing to me 👍 A major sporting event or big TV program gets the National grid creaking so how on earth can all these cars be charged especially at peak times when folk get home from work. Now you can check if/when the grid is creaking.
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