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Nov 28, 2020 17:05:49 GMT
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Post by Ravasher on Nov 28, 2020 17:05:49 GMT
It’s ridiculous I had a CT scan yesterday and people are walking into the hospital without masks on and being asked to wear one. Thankfully they have people at the the entrances to all the areas who check your appointment letter and provide you with masks if they don’t have one. The annoying thing was I was behind an elderly couple and after being told to wear a mask they did and further down the corridor both of them binned then. It really frustrated me that even in hospitals people are ignoring the rules.
We have all our shopping delivered now and anything essential the Mrs picks up after or before work. Yesterday was the 1st time I ventured out but it does look as if there’s a lot of people ignoring the rules.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2020 18:25:14 GMT
Alas even though there might soon be a vaccine against this virus,they will never ever produce one that works on stupidity.
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Post by widge on Dec 1, 2020 7:14:45 GMT
On a lighter note!
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Dec 15, 2020 10:25:53 GMT
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Post by Ravasher on Dec 15, 2020 10:25:53 GMT
It looks more likely that we will be told the rules around relaxation for Christmas will be changed again. Now they are reporting a new strain also and not sure if the vaccine will work against that. Let’s hope things get better sooner than later.
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Post by shcm on Dec 15, 2020 11:00:10 GMT
Personally, I think we have to wait for the proper scientific analysis before being swayed by info from some of the journos. If you've watched any of the press conferences, a while back it was journalists saying "can we meet up @ Christmas? can we sir, can we? please, please, please!" Now it's "Do you think you've gone too far with the proposed Christmas rules? do you? do you? do you sir?" I appreciate the press is there to hold the "powers that be" to account, but I feel some of them need to look at the extent to which they are playing "Devil's advocate". Don't get me wrong, the shambles of a Government (and I've never held any "affiliation" to any one political party) have made a complete horse's bottom of managing the thing....and I don't fully subscribe to the argument that the situation is "unprecedented". There have been pandemics before, studies and exercises done previously and recommendations made, but as with many things, we have to have the "cure" before anybody with power really takes notice of the "prevention". Partial rant over.  |
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Post by philip42h on Dec 15, 2020 11:26:48 GMT
Personally, I think we have to wait for the proper scientific analysis before being swayed by info from some of the journos. If you've watched any of the press conferences, a while back it was journalists saying "can we meet up @ Christmas? can we sir, can we? please, please, please!" Now it's "Do you think you've gone too far with the proposed Christmas rules? do you? do you? do you sir?" I appreciate the press is there to hold the "powers that be" to account, but I feel some of them need to look at the extent to which they are playing "Devil's advocate". Don't get me wrong, the shambles of a Government (and I've never held any "affiliation" to any one political party) have made a complete horse's bottom of managing the thing....and I don't fully subscribe to the argument that the situation is "unprecedented". There have been pandemics before, studies and exercises done previously and recommendations made, but as with many things, we have to have the "cure" before anybody with power really takes notice of the "prevention". Partial rant over. I agree entirely with the first part - the media really aren't our friends in this ... Though while the Government (like all Governments) may well be a "shambles", I think that they have done a perfectly adequate job of managing things ... They have consulted the scientific community, taken heed of the advice given and provided sensible advice and supporting legislation to the public. The UK Government has provided fairly unprecedented levels of funding in a effort to ameliorate the situation. The devolved governments have similarly provided sensible advice (though not always sensible legislation). And local authorities have similarly endeavoured to sensibly support their local citizens. Unfortunately, the guidance given has been inconsistent and almost contradictory - "devolution" has "made a complete horse's bottom of managing" things ... |
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Post by davrav on Dec 15, 2020 11:49:40 GMT
Too little too late and muddled as always as I see it. Oh, and it is not 'The Government' that has provided unprecedented funding. 'The Government' have borrowed, on behalf of the British people, in an unprecedented manner at the future expense of British tax payers for decades to come. What 'The Government' has done with those funds has been highly questionable in terms of accountability.
I won't mention the 'B' word but I am no more convinced that 'The Government' have a clue where that is going to put us in the future.
Remember, it doesn't matter who you vote for, 'The Government' always gets in. I'm afraid, as a people, we have been governed by successive self serving and incompetent groups for decades.
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Post by philip42h on Dec 15, 2020 12:48:01 GMT
Too little too late and muddled as always as I see it. Oh, and it is not 'The Government' that has provided unprecedented funding. 'The Government' have borrowed, on behalf of the British people, in an unprecedented manner at the future expense of British tax payers for decades to come. What 'The Government' has done with those funds has been highly questionable in terms of accountability. I won't mention the 'B' word but I am no more convinced that 'The Government' have a clue where that is going to put us in the future. Remember, it doesn't matter who you vote for, 'The Government' always gets in. I'm afraid, as a people, we have been governed by successive self serving and incompetent groups for decades. But it is "The Government" that a significant majority of us voted for - we always get the democratically elected government rather than the government that we actually want or need at any given point in time. And then it is all too easy to simply blame that self serving and semi-competent group for all the ills of the land ... |
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Post by firemac on Dec 15, 2020 15:13:39 GMT
Too little too late and muddled as always as I see it. Oh, and it is not 'The Government' that has provided unprecedented funding. 'The Government' have borrowed, on behalf of the British people, in an unprecedented manner at the future expense of British tax payers for decades to come. What 'The Government' has done with those funds has been highly questionable in terms of accountability. I won't mention the 'B' word but I am no more convinced that 'The Government' have a clue where that is going to put us in the future. Remember, it doesn't matter who you vote for, 'The Government' always gets in. I'm afraid, as a people, we have been governed by successive self serving and incompetent groups for decades. But it is "The Government" that a significant majority of us voted for - we always get the democratically elected government rather than the government that we actually want or need at any given point in time. And then it is all too easy to simply blame that self serving and semi-competent group for all the ills of the land ... I sometimes wonder how much different things would be if COVID-19 hadn't come along. To be honest, the govt won its majority largely on the strength of a promise to get Brexit done which I reckon was a tall enough order without the pandemic coming along and de-railing everything. I don't doubt for a moment that many things could have been done better but weighing up all the conflicting scientific, not to mention political, arguments isn't something that I would have wanted to be responsible for. Our daughter is a senior practice nurse with one of our local health centres and she tells stories of the many, sometimes diametrically opposed, points of view and opinions expressed just by her local colleagues in the NHS about the right way to proceed to deal with the outbreak. If these frontline experts aren't agreed on the way forward, what hope does a govt of politicians have? From what I can see COVID-19 is far and away a bigger issue than SARS or Bird Flu, not to mention the possibility that it was intentionally released to cause international tensions and/or economic mayhem. In any event SARS and the like were relatively localised whereas COVID-19 is global and has caused many more fatalities than either of the earlier two outbreaks mentioned. I have no great regard for politicians but IMVHO I don't think the alternative lot that contested the last election would have done any better. |
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Post by unclebob on Dec 16, 2020 8:20:23 GMT
Well today my area goes into tier 3...looking at what we can and can’t do...will make very little difference as we have never stopped shielding since the start of the outbreak .
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Post by Hoovie on Dec 16, 2020 11:15:15 GMT
Well today my area goes into tier 3...looking at what we can and can’t do...will make very little difference as we have never stopped shielding since the start of the outbreak . My area has dropped to Level 1 - so going to have a pool party! Or rather, not actually do anything differently! Common Sense does not seem that common nowadays and how people seem to think a reduction in a tier/level seems to mean a license to just congregate in the middle on a pandemic is beyond me  There is a Youtube chap I follow and I was most disapointed in his most recent video, where he said "now restrictions have been lifted" (meaning the recent semi-lockdown ended) he could have a meetup - so the video had a group of 5 blokes, all from different households, sitting in a campervan (5 people in a campervan is pretty confined and no social distancing there!) and no one wearing masks Let's hope none of them were carriers as if so, they all are now! |
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Dec 17, 2020 7:30:28 GMT
Got a mesage last night that the Scottish Govt NHS app detected I'd been in contact with someone who'd been tested positive for virus, so I need to isolate.
Number of days to isolate for..... guess?
-3
Yep - -3 days.
The contact was on 4th December, so I'd already served my isolation period. Checking my movements (outside), on Maps, I could see I'd collected surplus food from 3 supermarkets and delivered to 1 homeless hostel; one food poverty group; and flowers to a nursing home. No idea who/where I was near as they won't tell you that.
Might try to get a test just in case.
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Post by philip42h on Dec 17, 2020 9:12:20 GMT
Got a mesage last night that the Scottish Govt NHS app detected I'd been in contact with someone who'd been tested positive for virus, so I need to isolate. Number of days to isolate for..... guess? -3 Yep - -3 days. The contact was on 4th December, so I'd already served my isolation period. Checking my movements (outside), on Maps, I could see I'd collected surplus food from 3 supermarkets and delivered to 1 homeless hostel; one food poverty group; and flowers to a nursing home. No idea who/where I was near as they won't tell you that. Might try to get a test just in case. You probably should - in the, maybe unlikely, event that you are now / have been an asymptomatic spreader ... all the best! :TU: (and it's good to know that the app 'works' after a fashion) |
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Post by three5 on Dec 17, 2020 9:34:03 GMT
Got a mesage last night that the Scottish Govt NHS app detected I'd been in contact with someone who'd been tested positive for virus, so I need to isolate. Number of days to isolate for..... guess? -3 Yep - -3 days. The contact was on 4th December, so I'd already served my isolation period. Checking my movements (outside), on Maps, I could see I'd collected surplus food from 3 supermarkets and delivered to 1 homeless hostel; one food poverty group; and flowers to a nursing home. No idea who/where I was near as they won't tell you that. Might try to get a test just in case. Good luck with that Bothy - I was in contact with someone who tested +ve but was asymptomatic and I isolated for 14 days. I contacted the helpline soon after I found out but was told by a very helpful lass at the other end that I couldn't get a test anywhere, just sit out the isolation. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 20:17:07 GMT
A person who tested negative for Covid-19 despite carrying the virus could’ve started the August Auckland Covid-19 cluster,
while further cases could be moving undetected through the border, public health experts say.
No Covid-19 test is perfect and a case may be missed if not tested at the right time, experts led by Amanda Kvalsvig from the
University of Otago wrote in the New Zealand Medical Journal.
An outbreak like the Auckland cluster, which infected 179 people, could happen again through a false negative – where a person
returns a negative test result, even though they are infected. www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/123739936/covid19-false-negative-case-couldve-started-auckland-august-cluster--experts
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