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Post by jasehutch on Jul 3, 2019 12:18:21 GMT
The CVT in the wee IQ is awesome and when you switch to sport mode its enough to put a smile on your face...
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Post by davidwilson on Jul 3, 2019 12:56:48 GMT
Kev's is diesel and it’s married to the biggest auto box you’ve ever seen so if scale is anything to go by it’s going to be well on top of the job. You can get petrol autos in a 4.3 but from what I can remember they are either CVT or FWD only. I personally wouldn’t bother with either. Diesel is no good to us with Mrs P doing less miles so it would have to be a petrol auto. Don why wouldn't you bother with either? The three she was looking at on the Toyota website have all been sold already and have been told that when they come in they don't hang around for long?? I am the same: low annual mileage and lots of local journey with few miles. I also prefer the sound of a petrol engine and don't need the torque of a diesel. I had a petrol 4.3 but manual. I am not a fan of CVT and have had a few. Our CRV is petrol and has a torque converter automatic - it's a 2017. Newer ones have a CVT and so I may replace with a Mazda in the future but not sure. Anyway I can thoroughly recommend a Honda CRV like ours. |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 3, 2019 20:19:10 GMT
Have only driven two PETROL automatics, both Auri (note Latin plural), one in Scotland, one in Canada through Them Rockies. The CVT gearboxes in both were utter, utter pish........so many revs. just going oot the exhaust having done NO work ffs...... It was the same when Mrs P first had the Yaris Kev but now she has got used to it, took some time but as I've said before she loves the auto box in the Yaris so if it is the same in the Ravs then I can't see it been a problem for her?? |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 3, 2019 20:21:03 GMT
I believe that Valvematic is Toyota-speak for the VVTi petrol engine fitted to the 4.3. It will have any updates that Toyota made to the original design plus more sophiticated ECUs.
M-Drive is what Toyota called some of their automatics. I came across it in my daughter's first Aygo although I believe that in that application it was an automated manual NOT a CVT. As far as I know, all of their petrol engines from the 4.3 0nwards were mated to CVTs while the diesels got conventional torque converter boxes. Our D-Cat 4.3 auto was a TC autobox.
I don't think that last paragraph is quite correct ... the automated manual is known as MMT - multimode manual transmission - and I don't believe that any RAV was blessed with that type of gearbox. M-Drive S refers to the 7-speed CVT autobox fitted to XTR models from 2009 onwards (and through the 4.4). I believe that earlier XT4 and XT5 autos were fitted with a conventional 4-speed torque converter auto. According to Parkers the 4-speed auto gives 0-60 mph in 11.6 seconds and 31 mpg while the 7-speed CVT gives 0-60 mph in 10.6 seconds and 37 mpg so I can guess why Toyota switched and I know which I would choose if I were in the market for a petrol auto. Diesels offer better torque and acceleration so some of us much prefer a diesel. Petrol engines deliver such torque as they do at higher revs so going back to a petrol one would have to accept higher revs during acceleration ... Thanks Philip we'll bear this in mind but to be clear you are referring to models 2009 onwards with the better mpg? |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 3, 2019 20:28:32 GMT
Thanks Jim  Paul, I know I come across as a bit religious when it comes to 4.2s, but why not keep your eye open for a low-ish mileage 4.2 auto? You know how good they are already and they have a terrific drivetrain, one of the best. If you can find one that has been looked after, it coukd be a real result. I think Mrs P has got it into her mind now with an older car it will have the same issues we have had with the 3 door, which I hope we have now sorted and drives lovely, and with the prices of decent 4.2s pretty high she thought why not pay near enough the same money and get a later model, so it really is upto to her Jim. I did talk her into getting this 3 door we have now so feel some what to blame for what we've had to spend on it and doubt we will get anything near the money back we paid and spent on it? One of the Ravs she was looking at was an 07 plate which was a 4.3 with 33k on the clock, Black, tinted glass etc but that soon went. |
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Post by philip42h on Jul 4, 2019 7:16:29 GMT
M-Drive S refers to the 7-speed CVT autobox fitted to XTR models from 2009 onwards (and through the 4.4). I believe that earlier XT4 and XT5 autos were fitted with a conventional 4-speed torque converter auto. According to Parkers the 4-speed auto gives 0-60 mph in 11.6 seconds and 31 mpg while the 7-speed CVT gives 0-60 mph in 10.6 seconds and 37 mpg so I can guess why Toyota switched and I know which I would choose if I were in the market for a petrol auto. Diesels offer better torque and acceleration so some of us much prefer a diesel. Petrol engines deliver such torque as they do at higher revs so going back to a petrol one would have to accept higher revs during acceleration ... Thanks Philip we'll bear this in mind but to be clear you are referring to models 2009 onwards with the better mpg? Yes ... I'm basing my understanding on information available via Parkers and the stock of available RAVs on Autotrader. I can't be sure exactly when Toyota switched over to the M-Drive S 7-speed CVT autobox but a 4.3.5 should have one (so from 2010) as will 4.4s. Again, as far as I can tell, all such RAVs are AWD. |
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Post by clarki on Jul 4, 2019 9:07:54 GMT
Diesel and petrol are more or less the same price again now. On a 10 year old car would you not base the choice on condition and maintenance rather than the fuel pump you go to??
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Post by davrav on Jul 4, 2019 9:52:16 GMT
Personally, though I currently have two diesels, taking into account the well documented issues with diesel engine maintenance and failures, and the ever tightening emissions legislation, I would, going forward, only look at petrol or hybrid now.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 4, 2019 10:05:13 GMT
Personally, though I currently have two diesels, taking into account the well documented issues with diesel engine maintenance and failures, and the ever tightening emissions legislation, I would, going forward, only look at petrol or hybrid now. Well this is our other line of thinking David as there will soon be charges to go into Birmingham City centre depending on age of car etc not that we go into the city often but, an Hybrid Rav would be ideal but way out our price range so petrol it'll have to be. The Yaris would have to go also as I am now finding it more and more difficult getting in and out of cars that are low so another reason why the Rav suits but will have to be a five door which we didn't want :no: |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 4, 2019 10:10:12 GMT
Diesel and petrol are more or less the same price again now. On a 10 year old car would you not base the choice on condition and maintenance rather than the fuel pump you go to?? We just don't do the miles for a diesel, main use of the car is to and from work for Mrs P but that has gone down from over twenty miles a day to just under five, but of course condition, maintenance and low mileage are the main criteria, well will be :yes: |
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Post by clarki on Jul 4, 2019 12:13:14 GMT
Fair enough. I live 8 miles from work. Probably go electric after the Rav tbh. But only when the Rav has had enough.
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Post by davidwilson on Jul 4, 2019 13:23:42 GMT
The CVT in the wee IQ is awesome and when you switch to sport mode its enough to put a smile on your face... That's interesting to know! |
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