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Post by bothwellbuyer on Jun 3, 2018 7:47:00 GMT
I bought a 2001 4.2 as a short term method of keeping mobile whilst my other RAVs were at the garage. The car had passed the MOT in May this year but the handbrake lever comes right up and I think its only really gripping on the nearside. I intend to sell the car but obviously don't want to spend much effort - I can't remember...can I tighten the handbrake cables from inside the car or is it really a case of having to replace the shoes.... must be adjustment somewhere??
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Post by anchorman on Jun 3, 2018 14:16:09 GMT
Sorry for delay Bothy, I’ve got very limited internet access at the mo.
Yes, you just pop that rear centre console box off and you can easily adjust the cable. There is a tutorial on TOC which might help.
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Post by anchorman on Jun 3, 2018 14:18:16 GMT
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Post by three5 on Jun 3, 2018 20:33:07 GMT
I bought a 2001 4.2 as a short term method of keeping mobile whilst my other RAVs were at the garage. The car had passed the MOT in May this year but the handbrake lever comes right up and I think its only really gripping on the nearside. I intend to sell the car but obviously don't want to spend much effort - I can't remember...can I tighten the handbrake cables from inside the car or is it really a case of having to replace the shoes.... must be adjustment somewhere??
Hi Bothy - I don't know how much difference there is between the 4.2 and ( my ) 4.3, but I had a similar problem with a very bad balance between the handbrake effectiveness on the L and R sides of the motor. I stripped the offside brake drum ( which appeared to be the problem ) and could find nothing really wrong with the shoes/drum so reassembled after a good clean-up. It was fractionally better after adjusting the shoe positions with the adjuster but it was still not right. When I stripped it the second time I found that the small aluminium casting that positions the cable where it goes through the backplate had corroded through ( dissimilar metal corrosion? ). I then replaced the cable from the hub to the balance lever in the cab and that fixed the problem. I'm afraid if it come to that as a solution, it's a lying-on-your-back-under-the-car job, with the car on an axel stand on the affected side it's not a bad job if you have plenty of room to work. At least you are not doing it in February!
As a rough guide to the likelyhood of this being the problem, if the balance lever ( where the two hub cables connect to the single cable to the handbrake lever inside the cab ) is not exactly across the axis of the car, i.e. it is further forward at one end than the other, I would investigate the cable going through the backplate.
I don't suppose it's much comfort, but Discovery's etc have this as a regular problem according to my MOT man. Good luck!
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Post by anchorman on Jun 4, 2018 0:40:22 GMT
It did occur to me too Chris. I remember you doing those cables.
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Post by three5 on Jun 4, 2018 6:21:18 GMT
It did occur to me too Chris. I remember you doing those cables. From Memory, the pair of cables ( they are different, L and R ) cost about £35 - so not too bad.
In just short of 80k miles I've now done the rear Q links, rear Shock absorbers and both handbrake cables. It had a new engine at 32k miles ( oil consumption ) and I now top it up very rarely between its 6 monthly oil changes. I can't think of a reasonable excuse for changing it at present ( though I do like Davrav's Merc :yes: ).
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Jun 4, 2018 8:26:36 GMT
Thanks Chris and Don. The handbrake only seems to be gripping on the nearside so the offside problem is maybe more likely. I'll get under the car today or tomorrow- its trying to rain just now!
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Post by three5 on Jun 4, 2018 10:19:46 GMT
Thanks Chris and Don. The handbrake only seems to be gripping on the nearside so the offside problem is maybe more likely. I'll get under the car today or tomorrow- its trying to rain just now! Hi Bothy, if you jack the affected side and scotch the front wheels you can tell if this is the problem by releasing the handbrake and then "wobbling" the cable where it goes into the backplate. Any movement and that is almost certainly the problem. It is possible you could actually see the break if you have a bit of a clean around and use a torch. detaching the othe end(s) is much easier than the drum end and the screws holding the cable brackets came away easily with a 1/4" drive 10mm socket. If you have to replace the cable, start by dismantling the drum end and detaching the old cable as far as you can comfortably reach under the car ( first couple of brackets?), then get the new cable fitted to the drum and adjust the shoes with the adjuster. Replace the wheel and put a ramp under it. The rest of the job is just removing another 3 or 4 screws with the 10mm socket and putting them back through the brackets on the new cable followed by attaching the front end of the cable to the balance lever. Sorry if this sounds like teaching my Granny to suck eggs!!!!!
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Post by three5 on Jun 4, 2018 10:22:25 GMT
I should have said: the cable is probably siezed in the corroded casting and you can test this when dismantling by operating the handbrake lever.
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Jun 5, 2018 5:31:20 GMT
Thanks Chris... I am hoping to use the services of my friendly electrician - mainly as he is thinner than me and will be able to get under the car easier lol! Today is meant to be dry so we'll (or I'll) wallow around the ground checking the cable as per the above. From looking at the offside wheel well, I might need a shovel to remove the mud caked on....hoping it is mud and not a build up of slurry from a farm! Its funny I never had this problem with my earlier RAVs but as you say a mix of metal contact probably didn't help.
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