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Post by firemac on Dec 2, 2021 13:55:35 GMT
That steering wheel looks awful and driver seat outer bolster looks pretty tired too for the mileage. Several marks on various parts of the interior too. Should there be a cap on the 12V outlet? Methinks not a 'very careful lady owner'. I had two LCs with relatively low mileages & leather (one was bought as a demonstrator with mileage in the hundreds) and the driver's outer bolster on both looked a bit sorry when I sold them, one at 20K miles and the other @ 40K. Our current 4.5 however seems to have very durable seats which I think even at this early stage, will wear well. In the RAV's case though, I think the upholstery is synthetic leather. Things like power outlet covers can go walkies very easily. It doesn't necessarily indicate poor ownership. IMHO lady ownership can often be a big drawback......
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Post by charliefarlie on Dec 2, 2021 14:01:34 GMT
That steering wheel looks awful and driver seat outer bolster looks pretty tired too for the mileage. Several marks on various parts of the interior too. Should there be a cap on the 12V outlet? Methinks not a 'very careful lady owner'. Seat bolsters need regular treatment with a good leather feed as they can go a wee bit stiff which causes wear. I do my ones often and have no issues but that said my cars only just ticked onto 33K miles. If Im shifting bags to the recycling center I pop seat covers on also. But leather balm is the key. 12V Outlet should have a cover. Repairing the steering wheel is pointless superficial tart up jobs just arent going to last. Its either a top nick used one a new one or a quality re trim by someone like Royal. Their work is amazing and is far better than a brand new wheel. Rear shelf is a pull out affair. Drops into place in seconds. A couple of clips onto the front headrest posts and its done. There is also a very useful cargo net on two poles that again drops into place in seconds. Absolutely brilliant for stopping things like shopping flying about. That Part though As is the boot floor rubber mat may be off the options list. All 3 are really necessary. When I went to collect my car all 3 parts were missing. I asked for them and they handed them over because I pointed out they were in the photos of the car. They werent happy but I didnt give a monkeys about that.
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Post by unclebob on Dec 2, 2021 14:27:42 GMT
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Post by charliefarlie on Dec 2, 2021 17:34:15 GMT
Bob there were no steering wheels available when I looked soon after my wheel got marked …… The thing is with these wheels is the finish to the leather is likely based on the pictures of the wheel in question and my wheel is may be delicate. Certainly none of the other 3 cars here suffered from the effects of the hand sanitizer… So unless bought as a donor wheel to get re trimmed buying an EBay one that’s described as “ may have marks” is risky. I don’t quite have the confidence to remove the wheel from my car. Same goes for the MX5 as I would love to get that wheel upgrade and re trimmed. It’s the fear of setting off the airbags. I know the first thing would be to disconnect the battery but even so…….. The only way to do a wheel comprehensively is to re trim. I’ve seen some real crap where repairers have tried that “Skin” paint stuff or tried to “Flock” them. Not for me 👍
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Post by unclebob on Dec 2, 2021 17:38:28 GMT
Many leather treatments on the market, I successfully refurbished the cream leather seats on my Lexus SC430 using a leather dye. The same could be applied to a steering wheel and the minor cracks on the seats of this black one .
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Post by firemac on Dec 2, 2021 17:47:10 GMT
Bob there were no steering wheels available when I looked soon after my wheel got marked …… The thing is with these wheels is the finish to the leather is likely based on the pictures of the wheel in question and my wheel is may be delicate. Certainly none of the other 3 cars here suffered from the effects of the hand sanitizer… So unless bought as a donor wheel to get re trimmed buying an EBay one that’s described as “ may have marks” is risky. I don’t quite have the confidence to remove the wheel from my car. Same goes for the MX5 as I would love to get that wheel upgrade and re trimmed. It’s the fear of setting off the airbags. I know the first thing would be to disconnect the battery but even so…….. The only way to do a wheel comprehensively is to re trim. I’ve seen some real crap where repairers have tried that “Skin” paint stuff or tried to “Flock” them. Not for me 👍 I had similar reservations, Charlie, but it really is pretty straightforward. When you consider all the vibrations, temperature swings, etc that the bags put up with, they are really robust. What little upset you’ll give them when removing the wheel will not be a problem.👍👍
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Post by unclebob on Dec 2, 2021 17:53:39 GMT
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Post by charliefarlie on Dec 2, 2021 18:18:25 GMT
Many leather treatments on the market, I successfully refurbished the cream leather seats on my Lexus SC430 using a leather dye. The same could be applied to a steering wheel and the minor cracks on the seats of this black one . Completely agree on seats…. Not so sure on high impact use areas like steering wheels. I have seen a couple of repaired wheels. Fine when first done but it didn’t last. One was on my sons Honda Civic.
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Post by charliefarlie on Dec 3, 2021 18:32:57 GMT
Ash I don’t know if you’ve considered this….. Cars have risen dramatically in price over the last 18 months and even more so in the last 6 to 8 months. If I’m correct your in a position where you either hand the car back or make the final payment ??
If you’ve had your car 3 years and the final payment was based on the future price at the end of 3 years then perhaps you should check out todays values for that car…. My nose suggests todays value will likely be far greater than what was predicted 3 years ago when the final payment amount was set.. If that’s the case you should take advantage of the price gains rather than hand the car back. Make that final payment then sell the car……
All cars have risen as I said above. So your prospective Diesel 4.4 is also today more expensive. Selling the CHR would at least offset the increased price of your next car.
Just a thought mate 👍👍👍
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Post by philip42h on Dec 3, 2021 18:58:55 GMT
Ash I don’t know if you’ve considered this….. Cars have risen dramatically in price over the last 18 months and even more so in the last 6 to 8 months. If I’m correct your in a position where you either hand the car back or make the final payment ?? If you’ve had your car 3 years and the final payment was based on the future price at the end of 3 years then perhaps you should check out todays values for that car…. My nose suggests todays value will likely be far greater than what was predicted 3 years ago when the final payment amount was set.. If that’s the case you should take advantage of the price gains rather than hand the car back. Make that final payment then sell the car…… All cars have risen as I said above. So your prospective Diesel 4.4 is also today more expensive. Selling the CHR would at least offset the increased price of your next car. Just a thought mate 👍👍👍 The PCP terms specify "Guaranteed Future Value/Optional Final Payment" so Ash can make the final payment or trade in the car for it's then current commercial value - which will be at least the Guaranteed Future Value but more if second-hand cars have appreciated during his ownership. Maybe Ash can get a nice deal on a Corolla Cross when it becomes available?
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Post by charliefarlie on Dec 3, 2021 19:06:38 GMT
Ash I don’t know if you’ve considered this….. Cars have risen dramatically in price over the last 18 months and even more so in the last 6 to 8 months. If I’m correct your in a position where you either hand the car back or make the final payment ?? If you’ve had your car 3 years and the final payment was based on the future price at the end of 3 years then perhaps you should check out todays values for that car…. My nose suggests todays value will likely be far greater than what was predicted 3 years ago when the final payment amount was set.. If that’s the case you should take advantage of the price gains rather than hand the car back. Make that final payment then sell the car…… All cars have risen as I said above. So your prospective Diesel 4.4 is also today more expensive. Selling the CHR would at least offset the increased price of your next car. Just a thought mate 👍👍👍 The PCP terms specify "Guaranteed Future Value/Optional Final Payment" so Ash can make the final payment or trade in the car for it's then current commercial value - which will be at least the Guaranteed Future Value but more if second-hand cars have appreciated during his ownership. Maybe Ash can get a nice deal on a Corolla Cross when it becomes available? Ahhh Didn’t know that…… They really have their cake and eat it eh ?? I think I’d be checking out the numbers and the exact terms and conditions though 👍👍
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Post by Hoovie on Dec 4, 2021 16:55:47 GMT
Ash I don’t know if you’ve considered this….. Cars have risen dramatically in price over the last 18 months and even more so in the last 6 to 8 months. If I’m correct your in a position where you either hand the car back or make the final payment ?? If you’ve had your car 3 years and the final payment was based on the future price at the end of 3 years then perhaps you should check out todays values for that car…. My nose suggests todays value will likely be far greater than what was predicted 3 years ago when the final payment amount was set.. If that’s the case you should take advantage of the price gains rather than hand the car back. Make that final payment then sell the car……All cars have risen as I said above. So your prospective Diesel 4.4 is also today more expensive. Selling the CHR would at least offset the increased price of your next car. Just a thought mate 👍👍👍 This sounds like a good plan to me Used car prices have remarkably increased (I bought my Corsa 4.5 years ago and its trade-in value is only £1,000 less then I paid for it!)
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Post by Ravasher on Dec 9, 2021 11:10:17 GMT
Ash I don’t know if you’ve considered this….. Cars have risen dramatically in price over the last 18 months and even more so in the last 6 to 8 months. If I’m correct your in a position where you either hand the car back or make the final payment ?? If you’ve had your car 3 years and the final payment was based on the future price at the end of 3 years then perhaps you should check out todays values for that car…. My nose suggests todays value will likely be far greater than what was predicted 3 years ago when the final payment amount was set.. If that’s the case you should take advantage of the price gains rather than hand the car back. Make that final payment then sell the car…… All cars have risen as I said above. So your prospective Diesel 4.4 is also today more expensive. Selling the CHR would at least offset the increased price of your next car. Just a thought mate 👍👍👍 The PCP terms specify "Guaranteed Future Value/Optional Final Payment" so Ash can make the final payment or trade in the car for it's then current commercial value - which will be at least the Guaranteed Future Value but more if second-hand cars have appreciated during his ownership. Maybe Ash can get a nice deal on a Corolla Cross when it becomes available? We did consider this and looking online similar spec and mileage are selling for £22K the only risk with that is if we can’t sell it. We have decided that we want the new Corolla though. It’s definite 100%. So what I’ve done now is I’ve borrowed if you like my sisters Yaris 1.4 D4D mmt. She’s not using it at all as she’s still recovering from her Cancer so she said I can have it for as long as I need. I’ll just make sure I maintain it and look after it so when it goes back to her hopefully the new Corolla should be here and her cars tip top as it’s just been parked up for the last 10 months or so. If we didn’t have the windscreen issues I may have paid the final payment but it’s just done my head in so much I can’t be bothered with it. Weekend gone again the same issue and it does look as if it’s a common issue as other C-HR owners are experiencing the same. One thing that the dealer pi$$ed me off on was that because it has a dashcam and the rubber was removed that could’ve caused it. So does that mean Toyota shouldn’t be fitting dashcams as it’s likely to cause icing on the windscreen inside when it’s cold. It just beggars belief with some of the excuses they make.
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Post by firemac on Dec 9, 2021 11:37:11 GMT
The PCP terms specify "Guaranteed Future Value/Optional Final Payment" so Ash can make the final payment or trade in the car for it's then current commercial value - which will be at least the Guaranteed Future Value but more if second-hand cars have appreciated during his ownership. Maybe Ash can get a nice deal on a Corolla Cross when it becomes available? We did consider this and looking online similar spec and mileage are selling for £22K the only risk with that is if we can’t sell it. We have decided that we want the new Corolla though. It’s definite 100%. So what I’ve done now is I’ve borrowed if you like my sisters Yaris 1.4 D4D mmt. She’s not using it at all as she’s still recovering from her Cancer so she said I can have it for as long as I need. I’ll just make sure I maintain it and look after it so when it goes back to her hopefully the new Corolla should be here and her cars tip top as it’s just been parked up for the last 10 months or so. If we didn’t have the windscreen issues I may have paid the final payment but it’s just done my head in so much I can’t be bothered with it. Weekend gone again the same issue and it does look as if it’s a common issue as other C-HR owners are experiencing the same. One thing that the dealer pi$$ed me off on was that because it has a dashcam and the rubber was removed that could’ve caused it. So does that mean Toyota shouldn’t be fitting dashcams as it’s likely to cause icing on the windscreen inside when it’s cold. It just beggars belief with some of the excuses they make. Call me thick but why would you remove any seals to fit a dashcam? Isn’t the screen bonded in any event? Our RAV has a dealer-fit Nextbase cam and there’s no problem with condensation or icing. As a matter of interest, Ash, have you tried a Keplin dehumidifier bag in the car?
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Post by Ravasher on Dec 9, 2021 11:46:26 GMT
We did consider this and looking online similar spec and mileage are selling for £22K the only risk with that is if we can’t sell it. We have decided that we want the new Corolla though. It’s definite 100%. So what I’ve done now is I’ve borrowed if you like my sisters Yaris 1.4 D4D mmt. She’s not using it at all as she’s still recovering from her Cancer so she said I can have it for as long as I need. I’ll just make sure I maintain it and look after it so when it goes back to her hopefully the new Corolla should be here and her cars tip top as it’s just been parked up for the last 10 months or so. If we didn’t have the windscreen issues I may have paid the final payment but it’s just done my head in so much I can’t be bothered with it. Weekend gone again the same issue and it does look as if it’s a common issue as other C-HR owners are experiencing the same. One thing that the dealer pi$$ed me off on was that because it has a dashcam and the rubber was removed that could’ve caused it. So does that mean Toyota shouldn’t be fitting dashcams as it’s likely to cause icing on the windscreen inside when it’s cold. It just beggars belief with some of the excuses they make. Call me thick but why would you remove any seals to fit a dashcam? Isn’t the screen bonded in any event? Our RAV has a dealer-fit Nextbase cam and there’s no problem with condensation or icing. As a matter of interest, Ash, have you tried a Keplin dehumidifier bag in the car? No I’ve not tried that. It’s really frustrating as it ices up and you have to scrape it off literally. The 4.2 is fantastic and the 4.3 never had any issues. Anyway I think he was referring to the door rubber even then they fitted the next base so it doesn’t make sense and seems to be an excuse if anything. I’ve not bothered taking it back now as they have no courtesy car and the y said they can’t predict the weather so just fed up with it. However I’ve decide I will leave a note somewhere for whoever has it next but can’t think of where to put it. One of the responses from the dealer was oh it’s got a couple of years warrant left so don’t worry about it and that really is a taking the pi$$. Instead of trying to rectify it they’ve just made excuses. Thankfully the navigation screen has been fine so far no signs of any water.
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