blackdowner
Junior Member
Posts: 6
Primary Vehicle: Rav4
Year: 2010
Model Spec/Trim: D-Cat SR
Engine Capacity: 2.2L
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Automatic
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by blackdowner on Oct 3, 2021 9:54:51 GMT
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Hi everyone, we live in the beautiful Blackdown Hills between the A30 and M5 in Devon and have just bought, but are awaiting delivery (next weekend), of our first Rav4, a 2010 (60 reg) 2.2 D-CAT SR 4WD 5dr.
Between the two of us we have had Toyotas for the last 20 years including 2 x Avensis , Corolla, Surf Gen2 and Surf Gen3, but recently decided that the Gen 3 Surf was due to be replaced by something a little smaller.
We have bought the Rav4 from a dealer and the exterior and interior look to be in excellent condition and it comes with a full service history and a new MOT.
But as always the devil is in the detail and usually only found after living with it for a while, so is there anything that I should specifically be on the lookout for, such as rusting coil springs (which I have seen mentioned elsewhere) and if so are replacements and other decent quality service items easy to get hold of ?
Looking forward to sharing experiences and knowledge with you all. :gathering:
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Post by davrav on Oct 3, 2021 11:37:58 GMT
:welcome: to the club :TU:
Great choice of RAV. I doubt there will be much to worry about as long as the car has been regularly serviced. One are to check is behind the splash guard covering the filler tube to front of nearside wheel arch. Mud collects behind there and filler tubes have been known to corrode resulting in need to replace.
Be careful with undoing the holding nuts as the thread stub can snap off - a good clean and soak with penetrating fluid helps.
Clean out if necessary and apply a generous coating of Waxoyl or similar.
Was the dealer 'West Country Value Cars'?
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Post by bigkev on Oct 3, 2021 12:30:46 GMT
Welcome along BD……you have bought one of the best finished Ravs of its era. No matter what others say, and especially around your lack of motorways, do not use supermarket fuel and find some decent roads to do “Italian Decokes” regularly. Keep it clear of soot and you will love it. Speak to Kingo on here if you want to up the performance safely too. Think I am right in saying your 2010 was the start of the water cooled EGR valve which requires no cleaning compared to the previous one. Enjoy.
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Post by jasehutch on Oct 3, 2021 12:48:42 GMT
Hello and a big welcome to the club :TU:
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blackdowner
Junior Member
Posts: 6
Primary Vehicle: Rav4
Year: 2010
Model Spec/Trim: D-Cat SR
Engine Capacity: 2.2L
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Automatic
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by blackdowner on Oct 3, 2021 14:49:09 GMT
Thanks for the welcome chaps, much appreciated, we are really looking forward to a somewhat more refined ride than the Surf. I will have a look at the filler pipe, and treat it if necessary, I will also check out the coil springs because I have seen somewhere that there a problem with corrosion and potential snapping and causing major tyre damage. Regarding the "supermarket" fuel I have never had a problem with it, I did over 150,000 miles in my D4D Avensis with no problems, although a lot of it was I admit was Motorwway miles, did this make a difference. I always give the Surf a 15 mile blast up to the next junction of the M5 and back before an MOT just to clean out the tubes so to speak. Is the D-CAT engine more fussy?
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Post by anchorman on Oct 3, 2021 15:27:04 GMT
You’ll probably get away with millers if supermarket fuel is all you can get.
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Post by charliefarlie on Oct 3, 2021 15:36:47 GMT
Best shape RAV4 to date. I bought the later shape we call the 4.4 but only because I couldn’t find an SR in immaculate condition,
Your car will benefit from the best diesel you can get. Some of us have been on this and other forums dedicated to the RAV4 and without going into long winded details these engines need quality fuel. Some buy super diesels some put additives in. I actually do both. This is one engine that requires quality fuel.
The use of low SAPS oil is also highly recommended. As Don says above change the filters and fluids it’s really well worth doing. 👍👍
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blackdowner
Junior Member
Posts: 6
Primary Vehicle: Rav4
Year: 2010
Model Spec/Trim: D-Cat SR
Engine Capacity: 2.2L
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Automatic
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by blackdowner on Oct 3, 2021 16:20:28 GMT
charliefarlie Can you give me some brands and names of the oils you mention please Charliefarlie
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Post by charliefarlie on Oct 3, 2021 16:41:11 GMT
charliefarlie Can you give me some brands and names of the oils you mention please Charliefarlie Any quality fully synthetic I believe c2 grade that is low ash. I buy 20 litre containers for my car but the later model uses 0w30 though 5W30 is fine,. Your car requires 5W30 I can’t remember the brand but will have a look when I’m in the workshop tomorrow. Morrises is a very good brand and not stupidly expensive. So long as oils meet the requirements, viscosity and are low SAPS also called Low ash they are fine for the 2AD series engine in your car. 👍👍👍 |
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Post by philip42h on Oct 3, 2021 16:49:00 GMT
charliefarlie Can you give me some brands and names of the oils you mention please Charliefarlie Any quality fully synthetic I believe c grade that is low ash. I buy 20 litre containers for my car but the later model uses 0w30 though 5W30 is fine,. Your car requires 5W30 I can’t remember the brand but will have a look when I’m in the workshop tomorrow. Morrises is a very good brand and not stupidly expensive. So long as oils meet the requirements, viscosity and are low SAPS also called Low ash they are fine for the 2AD series engine in your car. 👍👍👍 Specifically, go for what is specified in the handbook. From memory that is ACEA C2 oil: ACEA C2: Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil with Mid SAPS-Level, intended for use as catalyst compatible Oil at extended Drain Intervals in Vehicles with all Types of modern Aftertreatment Systems and High Performance Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines that are designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with a minimum HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 mPa*s.As Charlie implies, I believe that the handbook recommends 0W30, with 5W30 as an alternative - 5W30 is just fine and is, generally, what the Toyota dealers would put in. And if my memory has gone astray - believe the handbook!  |
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Post by charliefarlie on Oct 3, 2021 17:07:16 GMT
Any quality fully synthetic I believe c grade that is low ash. I buy 20 litre containers for my car but the later model uses 0w30 though 5W30 is fine,. Your car requires 5W30 I can’t remember the brand but will have a look when I’m in the workshop tomorrow. Morrises is a very good brand and not stupidly expensive. So long as oils meet the requirements, viscosity and are low SAPS also called Low ash they are fine for the 2AD series engine in your car. 👍👍👍 Specifically, go for what is specified in the handbook. From memory that is ACEA C2 oil: ACEA C2: Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil with Mid SAPS-Level, intended for use as catalyst compatible Oil at extended Drain Intervals in Vehicles with all Types of modern Aftertreatment Systems and High Performance Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines that are designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with a minimum HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 mPa*s.As Charlie implies, I believe that the handbook recommends 0W30, with 5W30 as an alternative - 5W30 is just fine and is, generally, what the Toyota dealers would put in. And if my memory has gone astray - believe the handbook! I think the 4.3 is supposed to use 5W30 C2 and the 4.4 0W30 C2 both engines low ash or SAPS… I may not have made it clear above. 👍👍 Few people use the 0 grade in the 4.4 onwards though. When that grade started to be specified in some Toyota’s as well as other brands it was expensive hence me buying in a 20 litre container which brought the price down. 👍👍 |
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Post by philip42h on Oct 3, 2021 17:18:04 GMT
Thanks for the welcome chaps, much appreciated, we are really looking forward to a somewhat more refined ride than the Surf. I will have a look at the filler pipe, and treat it if necessary, I will also check out the coil springs because I have seen somewhere that there a problem with corrosion and potential snapping and causing major tyre damage. Regarding the "supermarket" fuel I have never had a problem with it, I did over 150,000 miles in my D4D Avensis with no problems, although a lot of it was I admit was Motorwway miles, did this make a difference. I always give the Surf a 15 mile blast up to the next junction of the M5 and back before an MOT just to clean out the tubes so to speak. Is the D-CAT engine more fussy? We can get quite 'aerated' on the topic of diesel fuel ...  The D-CAT has more emission control components than the original D4D and thus benefits more from cleaner burning fuel. On the Avensis it was [also] known as the 2.2 D-4D Clean Power engine: As you may know, the DPNR 'collects' particulate emissions and the catalyst needs periodic regeneration in order to burn them off. This is done when needed, when the engine is up to temperature and the engine is running at a sufficient rpm (i.e over 2,000 rpm). If most of your mileage is up and down the motorway this will happen without you even being aware of it. Conversely, if you do lots of short journeys so that the engine never really gets up to temperature the DPNR will eventually clog (and that would be bad!). So, a low ash oil and cleaner burning diesel are necessary to keep a D-CAT running well ... ... now to the contentious bit - all diesel is refined to the same standards - the only real difference between one brand and the next is the package of additives that is included. All brands, including supermarket brands, add their own package of additives - and on that basis, all regular diesels are pretty much the same whether branded BP or Tesco. Whether you choose one brand or another is pretty much down to convenience and prejudice - I had a bad experience with BP diesel so just won't buy BP fuel - but that is simply prejudice! Premium diesels contain a posher package of additives possibly including cetane enhancers etc.. And subjectively at least, I believe that a D-CAT runs better and more smoothly on premium diesel - Shell V-Power was my poison of choice (Total Excellium when abroad) but other premium diesel fuels are available. Or you can buy regular diesel and add additives of your own choice. There's nothing wrong with "supermarket diesel" but, AFAIK, all supermarket diesel is regular diesel ... and premium diesel is better for a D-CAT engine ... You could risk trying it to see ...  |
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Post by three5 on Oct 3, 2021 17:27:53 GMT
Thanks for the welcome chaps, much appreciated, we are really looking forward to a somewhat more refined ride than the Surf. I will have a look at the filler pipe, and treat it if necessary, I will also check out the coil springs because I have seen somewhere that there a problem with corrosion and potential snapping and causing major tyre damage. Regarding the "supermarket" fuel I have never had a problem with it, I did over 150,000 miles in my D4D Avensis with no problems, although a lot of it was I admit was Motorwway miles, did this make a difference. I always give the Surf a 15 mile blast up to the next junction of the M5 and back before an MOT just to clean out the tubes so to speak. Is the D-CAT engine more fussy? I'm a big believer in an "Italian de-coke" before the MOT as well. I'm a pretty gentle driver and I'm not sure it does the engine any real favours. The guy that recommended the Italian de-coke to me was a specialist diesel fuel system mechanic, his actual words were "so long as you put decent oil in it and keep it at the right level, you will do nothing but good giving it a run at high revs - ideally up a good hill!" The other thing that would be a good peace-of-mind check would be removing the EGR valve and giving it and the ports a good clean. I tend to do this every two years. EDIT: I've a fairly early 4.3 without the watercooled EGR valve and bow to BigKevs knowledge on the water cooled ones - Thanks Kev!
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Post by unclebob on Oct 3, 2021 18:22:02 GMT
Big welcome to the club 👍🏻👍🏻
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Post by firemac on Oct 3, 2021 21:22:21 GMT
We had a 12-reg D-CAT a few years back. Lovely car. You’ll enjoy it. And a big welcome to the forum.😊😊
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