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Post by davrav on Jan 21, 2021 11:28:40 GMT
Another question that I should have asked earlier - why do you need to change the engine? I am aware that you posted about high fuel consumption. Is that the reason? Just for reference: motoreu.com/toyota-rav4-2.2-d-4d-mpg-fuel-consumption-technical-specifications-174562Fuel Consumption Urban 8,1 lt/100km 35 MPG (UK) - 29 MPG (US) Extra Urban 5,6 lt/100km 50 MPG (UK) - 42 MPG (US) Combined 6,6 lt/100km 43 MPG (UK) - 36 MPG (US) Do you use UK or US gallons in Morocco? |
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Post by shcm on Jan 21, 2021 11:52:21 GMT
My "guess" would be: It's a 2.0l D4D 1AD-FTV (as Davrav says, from an Avensis, probably up to 2009). As far as I remember (I may be wrong) that 2.0l engine was only offered in the RAV (UK/EU) from about 2012/2013 onwards and was modified to take a DPF, which would mean the Engine ECU will most likely differ anyway. I don't remember a 2.0 diesel being offer in a 4.3 (third generation RAV) before then. Engines before then were 2AD-FTV or 2AD-FHV, 2.2l Info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AD_engine#1AD-FTVUnless you're very highly experienced in this area, my opinion would be it's a mistake to try to fit it. |
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Post by widge on Jan 21, 2021 13:09:21 GMT
My "guess" would be: It's a 2.0l D4D 1AD-FTV (as Davrav says, from an Avensis, probably up to 2009). As far as I remember (I may be wrong) that 2.0l engine was only offered in the RAV (UK/EU) from about 2012/2013 onwards and was modified to take a DPF, which would mean the Engine ECU will most likely differ anyway. I don't remember a 2.0 diesel being offer in a 4.3 (third generation RAV) before then. Engines before then were 2AD-FTV or 2AD-FHV, 2.2l Info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AD_engine#1AD-FTVUnless you're very highly experienced in this area, my opinion would be it's a mistake to try to fit it. I am well out of my depth here, but if it is a different engine or a similar engine out of a different vehicle might the engine management be setup incorrectly? |
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Post by widge on Jan 21, 2021 13:13:01 GMT
Another question that I should have asked earlier - why do you need to change the engine? I am aware that you posted about high fuel consumption. Is that the reason? Just for reference: motoreu.com/toyota-rav4-2.2-d-4d-mpg-fuel-consumption-technical-specifications-174562Fuel Consumption Urban 8,1 lt/100km 35 MPG (UK) - 29 MPG (US) Extra Urban 5,6 lt/100km 50 MPG (UK) - 42 MPG (US) Combined 6,6 lt/100km 43 MPG (UK) - 36 MPG (US) Do you use UK or US gallons in Morocco? Sorry to pick holes but as implied US and UK gallons are used in the US or UK, everywhere else they tend to use litres.  |
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skillmaker
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Posts: 14
Primary Vehicle: Rav4 4.3
Year: 2009
Engine Capacity: 2.2 D4D
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by skillmaker on Jan 21, 2021 13:23:33 GMT
Another question that I should have asked earlier - why do you need to change the engine? I am aware that you posted about high fuel consumption. Is that the reason? Just for reference: motoreu.com/toyota-rav4-2.2-d-4d-mpg-fuel-consumption-technical-specifications-174562Fuel Consumption Urban 8,1 lt/100km 35 MPG (UK) - 29 MPG (US) Extra Urban 5,6 lt/100km 50 MPG (UK) - 42 MPG (US) Combined 6,6 lt/100km 43 MPG (UK) - 36 MPG (US) Do you use UK or US gallons in Morocco? My engine has a block crack that leads to pressure leak to Coolant that's why I'm changing it. |
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skillmaker
Club Member
Posts: 14
Primary Vehicle: Rav4 4.3
Year: 2009
Engine Capacity: 2.2 D4D
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by skillmaker on Jan 21, 2021 13:24:42 GMT
Another question that I should have asked earlier - why do you need to change the engine? I am aware that you posted about high fuel consumption. Is that the reason? Just for reference: motoreu.com/toyota-rav4-2.2-d-4d-mpg-fuel-consumption-technical-specifications-174562Fuel Consumption Urban 8,1 lt/100km 35 MPG (UK) - 29 MPG (US) Extra Urban 5,6 lt/100km 50 MPG (UK) - 42 MPG (US) Combined 6,6 lt/100km 43 MPG (UK) - 36 MPG (US) Do you use UK or US gallons in Morocco? We use liters in morocco |
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Post by shcm on Jan 21, 2021 13:29:18 GMT
I am well out of my depth here, but if it is a different engine or a similar engine out of a different vehicle might the engine management be setup incorrectly? Yes, you are correct. My comment about the DPF was mostly irrelevant. There's *potentially* a whole heap of problems trying to put an engine from one vehicle model (which this would appear to be) into another vehicle model and get it to talk nicely to the donee vehicle's systems.
Anyway, *If* I'm right the engine indicated is 2.0l and I don't remember (maybe I'm wrong) a 2.0l diesel being offered in 4.3 guise (in 4.4, yes).
So, if using the donor engine's EMS, getting it to work with all the other systems in a 4.3, may have an extra set of "issues" to overcome (e.g. like the 4WD/VSC to EMS comms for instance, from an engine that was originally in a 2WD vehicle)
if attempting to use the original EMS, yes, maybe it will run and talk nicely to the other systems as before the transplant, but I wouldn't want to place bets on engine long term reliability.
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skillmaker
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Posts: 14
Primary Vehicle: Rav4 4.3
Year: 2009
Engine Capacity: 2.2 D4D
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by skillmaker on Jan 21, 2021 13:32:27 GMT
My "guess" would be: It's a 2.0l D4D 1AD-FTV (as Davrav says, from an Avensis, probably up to 2009). As far as I remember (I may be wrong) that 2.0l engine was only offered in the RAV (UK/EU) from about 2012/2013 onwards and was modified to take a DPF, which would mean the Engine ECU will most likely differ anyway. I don't remember a 2.0 diesel being offer in a 4.3 (third generation RAV) before then. Engines before then were 2AD-FTV or 2AD-FHV, 2.2l Info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AD_engine#1AD-FTVUnless you're very highly experienced in this area, my opinion would be it's a mistake to try to fit it. I am well out of my depth here, but if it is a different engine or a similar engine out of a different vehicle might the engine management be setup incorrectly? I already tried to fit the 2009 Corolla's engine and the wiring was the same , it worked but it has a blown head gasket , so i swapped the Bad engine with Avensis's one that has the EPS Reservoir as the only difference in it. I will give you more info when the installation of the engine is completed |
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Post by davidwilson on Jan 21, 2021 16:54:10 GMT
Amazing how different we all are! I would be cautious about changing a bulb let alone an engine. The older I get the more risk averse I become!
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skillmaker
Club Member
Posts: 14
Primary Vehicle: Rav4 4.3
Year: 2009
Engine Capacity: 2.2 D4D
Fuel Type: Diesel
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by skillmaker on Jan 22, 2021 20:55:35 GMT
I changed The engine with a new one and It is going well for now , i noticed that there is the same Writing on both engines , "IMI FTV" what does that means ?
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doxx
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Post by doxx on Aug 29, 2023 9:16:09 GMT
Hello.. Does a 1ad-ftv 2.0l engine from a 2005-2009 Toyota avensis, Corolla or Auris compatible with a 2008 Rav4 d4d with a 2ad-ftv 2.2 engine? I'm about to do an engine swap on a 2008 rav4 and I would like to know if the earlier 1ad-ftv engine will fit the 2008 rav4 d4d with a 2ad-ftv engine as these engines are replica. Suggestions will be highly appreciated
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