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Post by davrav on May 30, 2023 13:38:08 GMT
The petrol engine in the Outlander PHEV only charges the battery IF it is not under load. So when cruising or coasting. Braking generates induced charge and can be increased via the flappy paddles. It is perfectly possible to brake for, say, a roundabout by steadily increasing the charge rate via the paddle on the steering column and not using the brake pedal at all.
The system is not like the old diesel/electric trains.
It is a very smart system and was/is way ahead of what Toyota offered then and now.There is always a reserve in the battery for low speed manoeuvering and travel below 30mph.
On his daily commute Son once did over 1000 miles between petrol fill ups.
I believe that, if one puts one's foot down and the elecric motors and ICE run together you have about 220HP.
It is a different way of driving and being predictive and learning how to use the induction braking efficiently increases the electric only range.
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Post by davrav on Jun 30, 2023 13:15:39 GMT
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Jun 30, 2023 16:24:55 GMT
many thanks for finding this. However, the last (and only) time I turned up with a fire engine, she wouldn't speak to me for a while. I'd do it again, but eviction has been threatened !
I've actually tried out an Audi Q7 - nice comfy car and in nice condition. I can fit in, and get out ok. Its a 2012 model, S-Line with 82k miles. I expect to get it next week, having looked at a number of Q7s.
The CVT gearbox of later RAV4s and Outlanders put me off; and trying to find decent RAV4s in the 4.3 petrol version in rustless condition is an impossible task.
The Q7 seems to be a reasonably robust machine - 3.0 diesel as the 4.2 petrol came with its own petrol tanker. Full srrvice history, but I'd like to try to find out if its had any issues given 5 owners. First owned by a football player, so its a fairly rare blue colour.
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Post by firemac on Jun 30, 2023 16:46:55 GMT
! I've actually tried out an Audi Q7 - nice comfy car and in nice condition. I can fit in, and get out ok. First owned by a football player, so its a fairly rare blue colour. Presumably not a Celtic player then…..😂😂 |
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Post by unclebob on Jul 3, 2023 8:17:20 GMT
many thanks for finding this. However, the last (and only) time I turned up with a fire engine, she wouldn't speak to me for a while. I'd do it again, but eviction has been threatened ! I've actually tried out an Audi Q7 - nice comfy car and in nice condition. I can fit in, and get out ok. Its a 2012 model, S-Line with 82k miles. I expect to get it next week, having looked at a number of Q7s. The CVT gearbox of later RAV4s and Outlanders put me off; and trying to find decent RAV4s in the 4.3 petrol version in rustless condition is an impossible task. The Q7 seems to be a reasonably robust machine - 3.0 diesel as the 4.2 petrol came with its own petrol tanker. Full srrvice history, but I'd like to try to find out if its had any issues given 5 owners. First owned by a football player, so it’s a fairly rare blue colour. Look forward to a few photos in the coming days 👍🏻👍🏻 |
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Jul 3, 2023 9:04:28 GMT
! I've actually tried out an Audi Q7 - nice comfy car and in nice condition. I can fit in, and get out ok. First owned by a football player, so its a fairly rare blue colour. Presumably not a Celtic player then…..😂😂 Naw. Joof or Jooeff. It won't be going into the east end of Glasgow! |
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Jul 3, 2023 10:46:42 GMT
The petrol engine in the Outlander PHEV only charges the battery IF it is not under load. So when cruising or coasting. Braking generates induced charge and can be increased via the flappy paddles. It is perfectly possible to brake for, say, a roundabout by steadily increasing the charge rate via the paddle on the steering column and not using the brake pedal at all. The system is not like the old diesel/electric trains. It is a very smart system and was/is way ahead of what Toyota offered then and now.There is always a reserve in the battery for low speed manoeuvering and travel below 30mph.
On his daily commute Son once did over 1000 miles between petrol fill ups.
I believe that, if one puts one's foot down and the elecric motors and ICE run together you have about 220HP.
It is a different way of driving and being predictive and learning how to use the induction braking efficiently increases the electric only range.
I tried out a friends car - a 2018 Outlander. Nice car and fast enough. My worry is if something goes wrong, finding a mechanic that knows anything might be difficult. One local garage I use doesn't touch them other than any mechanical bits. And of course the Mitsubishi dealer (was) closed their workshop. |
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Post by firemac on Jul 3, 2023 11:17:46 GMT
The petrol engine in the Outlander PHEV only charges the battery IF it is not under load. So when cruising or coasting. Braking generates induced charge and can be increased via the flappy paddles. It is perfectly possible to brake for, say, a roundabout by steadily increasing the charge rate via the paddle on the steering column and not using the brake pedal at all. The system is not like the old diesel/electric trains. It is a very smart system and was/is way ahead of what Toyota offered then and now.There is always a reserve in the battery for low speed manoeuvering and travel below 30mph.
On his daily commute Son once did over 1000 miles between petrol fill ups.
I believe that, if one puts one's foot down and the elecric motors and ICE run together you have about 220HP.
It is a different way of driving and being predictive and learning how to use the induction braking efficiently increases the electric only range.
I tried out a friends car - a 2018 Outlander. Nice car and fast enough. My worry is if something goes wrong, finding a mechanic that knows anything might be difficult. One local garage I use doesn't touch them other than any mechanical bits. And of course the Mitsubishi dealer (was) closed their workshop. I am a bit confused. Surely there’s nothing particularly special about the Outlander? Yes, it’s a PHEV but these things have been around for long enough for the independents to be pretty au fait with them. I understand though that you’d want to use an MMC dealer (now pretty much an endangered species) or an independent specialist. It’s a pity though that MMC have pulled out of Europe as their cars were usually damn good and reliable. I had a similar issue when I had the Saabs in finding a good Saab specialist. The local one in Stoke was crap so I ended up going to the one in Liverpool which was a bit of a trek but their service was impeccable. I guess you need to research the MMC specialists that are available before you commit. |
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