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Post by Hoovie on Feb 11, 2021 23:02:26 GMT
Right ... I need to go out to the Post Office and some food shopping tomorrow. Lots of snow on the ground and been below zero for a few days now.
I have a choice of two vehicles. Which should I use?
Vehicle #1: Small FWD Hatchback fitted with good branded but standard summer tyres
Vehicle #2: Large (3.5t) and Wide FWD Van fitted with brand new Michelin Cross-Climate tyres
#2 obviously has the best tyres for the situation, and it is the tyres that give you only connection with the road.
However, the size of #2 would be more of a liabilty I guess?
Your Thoughts?
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Post by unclebob on Feb 12, 2021 0:40:04 GMT
Think light and nimble is the way to go 👍🏻👍🏻
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Feb 12, 2021 9:02:42 GMT
I was out with the Volvo XC90 using the W button which I guess does something to co-ordinate the AWD to suit slippy roads. And it performed well. However I remember my old 4.1 Rav with the wide tyres being much more nimble. And the stopping distance of a light car is perhaps shorter than a 2 ton hulk....depending if you are going down hills of course!
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Post by anchorman on Feb 12, 2021 9:44:17 GMT
I’ve got Cross Climates on Hoov and they are sensational.
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Post by shcm on Feb 12, 2021 10:42:50 GMT
I’ve got Cross Climates on Hoov and they are sensational.
Zat underwear or tyres? ........Actually, second thoughts, I don't want to know the answer....
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Post by Mb2t on Feb 12, 2021 11:05:13 GMT
#1, light and nimble. Also, weight is a major issue, as you need way more grip to stop 3.5t,
Whatever you choose, drive carefully.
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Post by davrav on Feb 12, 2021 12:03:17 GMT
Have Cross Climates on both the ASX and the RAV now. Haven't had any snow to try them on but they seem sure footed at -4 and are quiet too. Goodbye having to swap wheels twice a year :TU:
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 12, 2021 16:48:49 GMT
Having driven large vans all my working life I can say without hesitation they are a liability on icy roads. If snow is down take the wee car every time 👍👍
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Post by Hoovie on Feb 12, 2021 21:00:03 GMT
I took the car  I agree with all the comments made. I will be getting CrossClimates on the car when tyres are due, but do so little mileage can't justify swapping when plenty of tread left (and it is not as if the car has poor tyres - they are a premium brand). I actually checked a week or so ago what kind of tread is left and they have a remarkable amount left considering FWD and around 20,000 miles. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 12, 2021 21:34:37 GMT
I went to the butchers this morning a route that took me down Ankerdine hill which is a notorious hill in Worcestershire..... I was in the wee IQ going down the way and moving very slowly.. A transit truck coming up the hill flashed his lights at me so I slowed even more down to about 15 MPH...Then I saw it...... Some idiot has a 5.5 inch drainage pipe spewing water straight onto the road on my side.... The road was sheet ice as white as snow and as slippy as it gets. Fortunately I was able to move into the opposite lane but even that had the sheet ice caused by that drainage pipe. But other than a wee slide I was lucky enough to keep control....
Whoever owns the house that the drainage pipe comes from wants shooting. It must be a land drain of some sort and hell is it creating a hazard !!!
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Post by firemac on Feb 13, 2021 11:06:31 GMT
I went to the butchers this morning a route that took me down Ankerdine hill which is a notorious hill in Worcestershire..... I was in the wee IQ going down the way and moving very slowly.. A transit truck coming up the hill flashed his lights at me so I slowed even more down to about 15 MPH...Then I saw it...... Some idiot has a 5.5 inch drainage pipe spewing water straight onto the road on my side.... The road was sheet ice as white as snow and as slippy as it gets. Fortunately I was able to move into the opposite lane but even that had the sheet ice caused by that drainage pipe. But other than a wee slide I was lucky enough to keep control.... Whoever owns the house that the drainage pipe comes from wants shooting. It must be a land drain of some sort and hell is it creating a hazard !!! Presumably you've reported it? :yes: |
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 13, 2021 12:03:00 GMT
I went to the butchers this morning a route that took me down Ankerdine hill which is a notorious hill in Worcestershire..... I was in the wee IQ going down the way and moving very slowly.. A transit truck coming up the hill flashed his lights at me so I slowed even more down to about 15 MPH...Then I saw it...... Some idiot has a 5.5 inch drainage pipe spewing water straight onto the road on my side.... The road was sheet ice as white as snow and as slippy as it gets. Fortunately I was able to move into the opposite lane but even that had the sheet ice caused by that drainage pipe. But other than a wee slide I was lucky enough to keep control.... Whoever owns the house that the drainage pipe comes from wants shooting. It must be a land drain of some sort and hell is it creating a hazard !!! Presumably you've reported it?  I did try to ring Hereford council but due I think to the covid situation all I got was an answering machine. Dobbing in someone is and never has been my style but I can honestly assure you that is one serious hazard ..... Most round here know how dangerous Ankerdine can be but the frozen road is round a bend and out of sight.... Having just this last fortnight had to install a 20 metre long French drain I can see the need for draining ground but to discharge onto the highway is against the law albeit minor bylaws... The liability one assumes when installing these land drains is frightening.... I would have knocked on the householders door but again the covid thing prevented me from doing that. |
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Post by firemac on Feb 13, 2021 12:33:32 GMT
The police should have been interested. It sounds like it would be just as dangerous as a diesel spill, probably more so in these weather conditions.
That being the case it's got beggar-all to do with dobbing someone in, it could prevent serious injury or worse.
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 13, 2021 13:48:04 GMT
The police should have been interested. It sounds like it would be just as dangerous as a diesel spill, probably more so in these weather conditions. That being the case it's got beggar-all to do with dobbing someone in, it could prevent serious injury or worse. The police don’t turn out round here even if you’ve been hit by a van and carted off to hospital..... So they won’t be interested in an icy road |
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Post by widge on Feb 15, 2021 8:17:40 GMT
I was out with the Volvo XC90 using the W button which I guess does something to co-ordinate the AWD to suit slippy roads. And it performed well. However I remember my old 4.1 Rav with the wide tyres being much more nimble. And the stopping distance of a light car is perhaps shorter than a 2 ton hulk....depending if you are going down hills of course! The weight certainly a factor, my old disco was great in the snow, but down hill on an icy road was a bit scary. |
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