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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 12, 2021 17:49:39 GMT
I’m surprised you took the risk without having the numbers in place... I’m not surprised any garage could or would allow anywhere near what a lot of you guys rate the 3 doors to be worth..... I had to see/drive the car before knowing if the asking price was satisfactory and what more the dealer was prepared to do for a sale. The RAV was never in the mix as I was a cash buyer. There was no way I was going to negotiate over the phone without seeing the car! 🙂 I on the other hand refuse to travel unless there is a deal agreed in principle....... Why this cannot be very simple what with today’s buying at distance ? As for taking a risk without that in place if I’m honest Jim is something I wouldn’t of expected you to do. Let’s bury this 3 door values as it just gets daft. It doesn't matter what we the buyers reckon any car is worth it’s those that are buying the cars in PX that an owner has to convince and no motor trader I know is ever going to give over book unless they have a huge profit in the car to be purchased. Your car the 3 door is similar in this area as my MX5..... To the trade it’s value is 3 to 4 K but to the guys on the MX5 forum it’s 5500 all day long. Now I know that and that’s why I wouldn’t travel within the 5 miles we’re supposed to go never mind bigger distances. You are correct there is a following of enthusiastic folk that will pay way way more than book. 99% of motor traders won’t. That could have been established before you tied you shoe laces. 👍👍👍 |
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Post by firemac on Feb 12, 2021 17:55:37 GMT
I had to see/drive the car before knowing if the asking price was satisfactory and what more the dealer was prepared to do for a sale. The RAV was never in the mix as I was a cash buyer. There was no way I was going to negotiate over the phone without seeing the car! 🙂 I on the other hand refuse to travel unless there is a deal agreed in principle....... Why this cannot be very simple what with today’s buying at distance ? As for taking a risk without that in place if I’m honest Jim is something I wouldn’t of expected you to do. Let’s bury this 3 door values as it just gets daft. It doesn't matter what we the buyers reckon any car is worth it’s those that are buying the cars in PX that an owner has to convince and no motor trader I know is ever going to give over book unless they have a huge profit in the car to be purchased. Your car the 3 door is similar in this area as my MX5..... To the trade it’s value is 3 to 4 K but to the guys on the MX5 forum it’s 5500 all day long. Now I know that and that’s why I wouldn’t travel within the 5 miles we’re supposed to go never mind bigger distances. You are correct there is a following of enthusiastic folk that will pay way way more than book. 99% of motor traders won’t. That could have been established before you tied you shoe laces. 👍👍👍 The RAV was never in the deal. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 12, 2021 18:29:52 GMT
I on the other hand refuse to travel unless there is a deal agreed in principle....... Why this cannot be very simple what with today’s buying at distance ? As for taking a risk without that in place if I’m honest Jim is something I wouldn’t of expected you to do. Let’s bury this 3 door values as it just gets daft. It doesn't matter what we the buyers reckon any car is worth it’s those that are buying the cars in PX that an owner has to convince and no motor trader I know is ever going to give over book unless they have a huge profit in the car to be purchased. Your car the 3 door is similar in this area as my MX5..... To the trade it’s value is 3 to 4 K but to the guys on the MX5 forum it’s 5500 all day long. Now I know that and that’s why I wouldn’t travel within the 5 miles we’re supposed to go never mind bigger distances. You are correct there is a following of enthusiastic folk that will pay way way more than book. 99% of motor traders won’t. That could have been established before you tied you shoe laces. 👍👍👍 The RAV was never in the deal. But the same applies to any PX or straight purchase surely......... |
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Post by firemac on Feb 12, 2021 18:54:17 GMT
The RAV was never in the deal. But the same applies to any PX or straight purchase surely......... Re a new car then distance buying isn't an issue. And I have bought a couple of 3-drs in the past unseen but from dealers I trusted and who were prepared to accept that I could reject them if they weren't as described. But that was for cars at £6k or £7k. Anything north of £20k and I want to eyeball it first. The reality is that a dealer's "perfect condition" may not be the same as mine. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 12, 2021 19:04:15 GMT
But the same applies to any PX or straight purchase surely......... Re a new car then distance buying isn't an issue. And I have bought a couple of 3-drs in the past unseen but from dealers I trusted and who were prepared to accept that I could reject them if they weren't as described. But that was for cars at £6k or £7k. Anything north of £20k and I want to eyeball it first. The reality is that a dealer's "perfect condition" may not be the same as mine. In which case you don’t buy !! Jim I bought that wee VW from down near London. I discussed the condition and the price before I agreed in principle to buy the car. Do you really think I would have bought it or agreed to buy it if it was what was agreed  Same with my RAV4 ... That came from Milton Keynes which was a hell of a trip. Price negotiated and agreed. Anything wrong I would have raised the bloody roof and walked. Thing is as well is if you’ve traveled a distance the dealer will be reluctant to move and will think this guys driven a long way so he must be a serious buyer. Covid aside I wouldn’t drive more than 20 miles before getting a deal in principle. It really is easy........ Very easy. |
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Post by Paulus17 on Feb 14, 2021 13:44:18 GMT
Sorry the deal fell through Jim, but have you thought about another Land Cruiser as they're one of your favs i believe?
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Post by Paulus17 on Feb 14, 2021 13:45:32 GMT
I had to see/drive the car before knowing if the asking price was satisfactory and what more the dealer was prepared to do for a sale. The RAV was never in the mix as I was a cash buyer. There was no way I was going to negotiate over the phone without seeing the car! 🙂 I on the other hand refuse to travel unless there is a deal agreed in principle....... Why this cannot be very simple what with today’s buying at distance ? As for taking a risk without that in place if I’m honest Jim is something I wouldn’t of expected you to do. Let’s bury this 3 door values as it just gets daft. It doesn't matter what we the buyers reckon any car is worth it’s those that are buying the cars in PX that an owner has to convince and no motor trader I know is ever going to give over book unless they have a huge profit in the car to be purchased. Your car the 3 door is similar in this area as my MX5..... To the trade it’s value is 3 to 4 K but to the guys on the MX5 forum it’s 5500 all day long. Now I know that and that’s why I wouldn’t travel within the 5 miles we’re supposed to go never mind bigger distances. You are correct there is a following of enthusiastic folk that will pay way way more than book. 99% of motor traders won’t. That could have been established before you tied you shoe laces. 👍👍👍 Have you managed to get that local 3 door you was after for your mate yet Charlie? |
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Post by firemac on Feb 14, 2021 15:15:57 GMT
Sorry the deal fell through Jim, but have you thought about another Land Cruiser as they're one of your favs i believe? I'm not really fussed TBH. It was (m)BH who thought that she wanted another Shogun. She also loves LCs but the 5-dr is just too big so the 3-dr is something that she would definitely consider. However it is only the latest uplifted LC150 that has an autobox on the 3-dr; earlier ones were manual only and the autobox is the one to have. For me the 3-dr LC isn't that appealing as you can't get a decent spec like you can with the 5-dr. But as I said I'm not really bothered. As long as I have the Saab (or whatever I might replace it with downstream) then I'm happy. 😊 |
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Post by charliefarlie on Feb 14, 2021 17:10:18 GMT
I on the other hand refuse to travel unless there is a deal agreed in principle....... Why this cannot be very simple what with today’s buying at distance ? As for taking a risk without that in place if I’m honest Jim is something I wouldn’t of expected you to do. Let’s bury this 3 door values as it just gets daft. It doesn't matter what we the buyers reckon any car is worth it’s those that are buying the cars in PX that an owner has to convince and no motor trader I know is ever going to give over book unless they have a huge profit in the car to be purchased. Your car the 3 door is similar in this area as my MX5..... To the trade it’s value is 3 to 4 K but to the guys on the MX5 forum it’s 5500 all day long. Now I know that and that’s why I wouldn’t travel within the 5 miles we’re supposed to go never mind bigger distances. You are correct there is a following of enthusiastic folk that will pay way way more than book. 99% of motor traders won’t. That could have been established before you tied you shoe laces. 👍👍👍 Have you managed to get that local 3 door you was after for your mate yet Charlie? The old chap who owns it is due an eye test which he knows he won’t pass. Once this has taken place he will part with his car..... But the covid thing means at the moment he’s dodging the bullet. My mate Tyrone is having the car as you may remember. |
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Feb 15, 2021 9:32:45 GMT
Owning a 2 door emergency essential vehicle, and if one is keen on replacing ones' car, I do have a handy 4x4 that could be made available, and polis stopping wouldn't happen as most probably are put off by the bright red colour and flashing blue lights....aside of the size. Just bring a petrol fuel card/tanker.
Within a mile from me, theres a car transport company who are shifting dozens of car every week. Confused as how thats legal but as its all trade....
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Same with my RAV4 ... That came from Milton Keynes which was a hell of a trip. Price negotiated and agreed. Anything wrong I would have raised the bloody roof and walked. 
