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Post by bigkev on Jul 22, 2020 21:36:55 GMT
.......but if the ECU has been failing, but car still driven, could cost nearly same as purchase price again to replace gearbox Yeah, but a test drive would soon show up any ECU gearbox issues. As I said in my first post above, Jim......took one I looked at 25 mins to start jerking aboot. |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 23, 2020 7:56:00 GMT
Yeah, but a test drive would soon show up any ECU gearbox issues. As I said in my first post above, Jim......took one I looked at 25 mins to start jerking aboot. So do all the ECUs eventually play up on the earlier models when they reach a certain mileage or is it just pot luck when they go? Is the ECU replaced with an updated version or is it repaired? Has the ECU gotta fail before it's repaired/replaced or as it's a known problem could you get it fixed beforehand if you are intending on keeping the car for a long time? What are the signs of a failing/failed ECU? Where is the ECU located? |
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Post by firemac on Jul 23, 2020 10:43:40 GMT
As I said in my first post above, Jim......took one I looked at 25 mins to start jerking aboot. So do all the ECUs eventually play up on the earlier models when they reach a certain mileage or is it just pot luck when they go? Is the ECU replaced with an updated version or is it repaired? Has the ECU gotta fail before it's repaired/replaced or as it's a known problem could you get it fixed beforehand if you are intending on keeping the car for a long time? What are the signs of a failing/failed ECU? Where is the ECU located? Not all, but usually at 80k miles +. Repaired. AFAIK it's a specific issue so I guess that somebody like ECUtesting could apply the fix to one that hasn't failed yet, but you'd need to ask them to be certain. Gear changes become very harsh and abrupt. Car seems to not know what hear it should be in. Once it starts it is imperative that the car is not driven any further otherwise the gearbox becomes scrap very, very quickly. And it cannot be repaired, only replaced at enormous cost. Behind the trim panel in the n/s/f footwell. Torc security bits are needed to remove it. :TU: |
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Post by bigkev on Jul 23, 2020 11:30:39 GMT
So do all the ECUs eventually play up on the earlier models when they reach a certain mileage or is it just pot luck when they go? Is the ECU replaced with an updated version or is it repaired? Has the ECU gotta fail before it's repaired/replaced or as it's a known problem could you get it fixed beforehand if you are intending on keeping the car for a long time? What are the signs of a failing/failed ECU? Where is the ECU located? Not all, but usually at 80k miles +. Repaired. AFAIK it's a specific issue so I guess that somebody like ECUtesting could apply the fix to one that hasn't failed yet, but you'd need to ask them to be certain. Gear changes become very harsh and abrupt. Car seems to not know what hear it should be in. Once it starts it is imperative that the car is not driven any further otherwise the gearbox becomes scrap very, very quickly. And it cannot be repaired, only replaced at enormous cost. Behind the trim panel in the n/s/f footwell. Torc security bits are needed to remove it.  .........and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault.......dinnae fash yursell, min but though.....! |
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Post by unclebob on Jul 23, 2020 14:04:36 GMT
As I said in my first post above, Jim......took one I looked at 25 mins to start jerking aboot. So do all the ECUs eventually play up on the earlier models when they reach a certain mileage or is it just pot luck when they go? Is the ECU replaced with an updated version or is it repaired? Has the ECU gotta fail before it's repaired/replaced or as it's a known problem could you get it fixed beforehand if you are intending on keeping the car for a long time? What are the signs of a failing/failed ECU? Where is the ECU located? Had I of been looking for a NRG ..first job would be to send the auto box ECU off for inspection regardless if he was playing up or not 👍🏻 |
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Post by davidwilson on Jul 23, 2020 16:00:47 GMT
Not all, but usually at 80k miles +. Repaired. AFAIK it's a specific issue so I guess that somebody like ECUtesting could apply the fix to one that hasn't failed yet, but you'd need to ask them to be certain. Gear changes become very harsh and abrupt. Car seems to not know what hear it should be in. Once it starts it is imperative that the car is not driven any further otherwise the gearbox becomes scrap very, very quickly. And it cannot be repaired, only replaced at enormous cost. Behind the trim panel in the n/s/f footwell. Torc security bits are needed to remove it. .........and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault.......dinnae fash yursell, min but though.....! I think I need a translation to be on the safe side. 'and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault' Kev are you saying the ECU problem is only on the older models before 2004? 'dinnae fash yursell, min but though' don't something yourself, mate but  ?? I must be more of a southener than I ken. So how do I tell a 2004 facelift model? To be honest I had started to put the 3 door RAV4 on the back burner with all this talk of ECU auto problems. |
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Post by firemac on Jul 23, 2020 16:17:46 GMT
.........and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault.......dinnae fash yursell, min but though.....! I think I need a translation to be on the safe side. 'and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault' Kev are you saying the ECU problem is only on the older models before 2004? 'dinnae fash yursell, min but though' don't something yourself, mate but  ?? I must be more of a southener than I ken. So how do I tell a 2004 facelift model? To be honest I had started to put the 3 door RAV4 on the back burner with all this talk of ECU auto problems. It's only the early ones (up to 2003) that have the G/box ECU problem, David.
You can identify them by squarish light units under the front bumper that house both the fogs and the indicators, no audio controls on the steering wheel, the silver plastic moulding in the centre of the dash surrounding the radio/CD/tape deck is rounder and has exposed chrome fitting bolts, the air-con and associated switches in the centre of the dash are rather elliptical in shape compared to the 4.2.5's which are rectagular, the alloys are different, being more sculpted compared to the later car's which have flatter, less ornamental spokes.
The easiest way to identify a later 4.2.5 is it will have round fogs under the front bumper, indicators built into the headlamp unit, audio controls on the steering wheel, squared-off silver mouldings in the radio surround and it will have "XT" model names instead of the old "NRG", "GX" and "VX". There are no g/box ECU problems on the 4.2.5.
ATB,
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Post by davidwilson on Jul 23, 2020 17:34:07 GMT
I think I need a translation to be on the safe side. 'and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault' Kev are you saying the ECU problem is only on the older models before 2004? 'dinnae fash yursell, min but though' don't something yourself, mate but ?? I must be more of a southener than I ken. So how do I tell a 2004 facelift model? To be honest I had started to put the 3 door RAV4 on the back burner with all this talk of ECU auto problems. It's only the early ones (up to 2003) that have the G/box ECU problem, David.
You can identify them by squarish light units under the front bumper that house both the fogs and the indicators, no audio controls on the steering wheel, the silver plastic moulding in the centre of the dash surrounding the radio/CD/tape deck is rounder and has exposed chrome fitting bolts, the air-con and associated switches in the centre of the dash are rather elliptical in shape compared to the 4.2.5's which are rectagular, the alloys are different, being more sculpted compared to the later car's which have flatter, less ornamental spokes.
The easiest way to identify a later 4.2.5 is it will have round fogs under the front bumper, indicators built into the headlamp unit, audio controls on the steering wheel, squared-off silver mouldings in the radio surround and it will have "XT" model names instead of the old "NRG", "GX" and "VX". There are no g/box ECU problems on the 4.2.5.
ATB,
Anorak Firemac Brilliant. I didn't expect that level of detail and comprehensive explanation. I shall study this carefully and avoid the pre-facelift ones. Thank you. |
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Post by davidwilson on Jul 23, 2020 17:41:44 GMT
WCVC have a Vitara 3 door auto that looks good if anyone wants an alternative to the RAV.
They also have a LC !
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Post by firemac on Jul 23, 2020 18:40:05 GMT
WCVC have a Vitara 3 door auto that looks good if anyone wants an alternative to the RAV. They also have a LC ! I think the Grand Vitara was a nice car. Not as "solid" as the RAV but a nice clone nonetheless. Only downside is that the Suzuki auto is very fond of fuel - worse than the auto RAV. The LC is a brilliant car but you need to be able to live with it's size. 😊 |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jul 23, 2020 19:52:21 GMT
Not all, but usually at 80k miles +. Repaired. AFAIK it's a specific issue so I guess that somebody like ECUtesting could apply the fix to one that hasn't failed yet, but you'd need to ask them to be certain. Gear changes become very harsh and abrupt. Car seems to not know what hear it should be in. Once it starts it is imperative that the car is not driven any further otherwise the gearbox becomes scrap very, very quickly. And it cannot be repaired, only replaced at enormous cost. Behind the trim panel in the n/s/f footwell. Torc security bits are needed to remove it. .........and your 2004 facelift model wiz sorted of said fault.......dinnae fash yursell, min but though.....! Nae Kev, i did know about the ECUs problems on the early Ravs thanks to Firemac, but i didn't know until i started to ask questions, so thought i would bring it up on here for those others that don't know :TU: |
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Post by three5 on Jul 23, 2020 20:01:32 GMT
WCVC have a Vitara 3 door auto that looks good if anyone wants an alternative to the RAV. They also have a LC ! I think the Grand Vitara was a nice car. Not as "solid" as the RAV but a nice clone nonetheless. Only downside is that the Suzuki auto is very fond of fuel - worse than the auto RAV. The LC is a brilliant car but you need to be able to live with it's size. 😊 I had a Vitara before my RAV and I reckon that my fuel usage went down by about 40% when I bought the RAV. There wasn't a lot of difference between the fuel consumption of the Vitara and the LR's that I used to run! The plus side was that in those days they had a bottom box which was very useful when towing around here! The paint seemed about a couple of mm thick and it was pretty hard but the seats were nowhere near as comfortable as the RAV. The reliability was excellent - never missed a beat! |
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Post by Hoovie on Jul 23, 2020 21:26:33 GMT
Think it’s just the colour could hold it back , catch it in the sunshine and it looks stunning but these photos are not doing it justice. That Kielder Green is a bit of a marmite colour. My first 3-dr was that green and I liked it. Certainly easier to keep than bloody black!! 😕 The 3 Door Auto I bought was that green and I thought it looked brilliant, especially when given a good polish. If the price was reduced due to the colour, that would be a right result! |
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Post by bigkev on Jul 24, 2020 9:14:22 GMT
Hoovie had machined his Kielder and it looked great, but unkempt Kielder really does look old and faded. Although warned by Hoovie, bought wife a 2006 petrol Rav, one of the first 4.3.1s.........by Friar Tuck, this thing can drink fuel.......so be warned David. Only bought for local stuff thank Godness.
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Post by unclebob on Jul 24, 2020 9:25:23 GMT
Think you buy a 3 door now with your heart not your head 🤔 road tax £330 and mid to high 20’s mpg !. There is nothing else like it and still has its roots way back to the 1996 model....cheeky chunky and fun 😎😎
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